GIVER:    okay , start off above the diamond mine .
FOLLOWER:   okay ... yeah .
GIVER:   right , now , go ... south ... ... from the diamond mine ... ... until ... you are just above the desert .
FOLLOWER:   so that's with the diamond ... mine on ... on your right ?
GIVER:   that's ... that's correct uh-huh , and ... go below the diamond mine .
FOLLOWER:   mmhmm .
GIVER:   and below the graveyard ... below the graveyard but above the carved wooden pole .
FOLLOWER:   oh hang on ... i don't have a graveyard .
GIVER:   okay , so you don't have a graveyard , do you have a fast flowing river ?
FOLLOWER:   fast running creek .
GIVER:   ehm ... mm don't know yeah it could be ... could be .
FOLLOWER:   is that ... to the right that'll be to my right ... to my right ?
GIVER:   to your , right uh-huh .
FOLLOWER:   right , so i continue ... and ... go ... below the fast running creek ?
GIVER:   no , go just ... until you go ... go below the diamond mine until just before the fast fast flowing river .
FOLLOWER:   i don't have a fast flowing river .
GIVER:   you have a fast flowing creek ?
FOLLOWER:   i've a fast flowing running creek , which is on the far right-hand corner .
GIVER:   mmhmm , um .
FOLLOWER:   so you have ?
GIVER:   well , do you have an apache camp ?
FOLLOWER:   yeah ... got an apache camp .
GIVER:   okay .
FOLLOWER:   but that's like ... at forty-five degrees ... south east .
GIVER:   right , okay then , right , you're going to go below the diamond mine .
FOLLOWER:   right .
GIVER:   do you have a graveyard ?
FOLLOWER:   no ... no graveyard .
GIVER:   don't have a graveyard ?
FOLLOWER:   no .
GIVER:   do you have a desert ?
FOLLOWER:   yes ... got a desert , which if i continue straight down past the diamond mine .
GIVER:   no don't go don't go any further than the desert ... don't go ... onto the desert .
FOLLOWER:   okay , so i'm still below the diamond mine ?
GIVER:   right , you d-- uh-huh below the diamond mine .
FOLLOWER:   right okay .
GIVER:   and then go to your right .
FOLLOWER:   my right right okay .
GIVER:   you've got neither a graveyard nor a fast flowing river ?
FOLLOWER:   i've got a fast running creek .
GIVER:   okay right you've got a fast flowing ... fast running creek , i don't have a fast running creek .
FOLLOWER:   how unlucky .
GIVER:   so ehm ... ... ... ehm i'm kind of stuck .
FOLLOWER:   can i just go straight to the saloon bar ?
GIVER:   erm mark no just wait , i know you're thirsty but just wait 'til you get to the desert .
FOLLOWER:   right okay .
GIVER:   erm , well okay then ... ... right , you've got a creek i've got a river .
FOLLOWER:   yes .
GIVER:   so they must be linked ... somehow .
FOLLOWER:   yeah .
GIVER:   so ... do you want to just ... go along to your right .
FOLLOWER:   okay .
GIVER:   and then go up ... and over the top ... of where the creek is .
FOLLOWER:   right okay .
GIVER:   and ... then down south again .
FOLLOWER:   okay .
GIVER:   down south again ... until ... just above the apache camp .
FOLLOWER:   right okay .
GIVER:   and pass that by go to your ... sou-- southwest of the apache camp .
FOLLOWER:   passing above it ?
GIVER:   uh-huh .
FOLLOWER:   but to the southwest ?
GIVER:   uh-huh .
FOLLOWER:   okay .
GIVER:   right , take the southwest direction .
FOLLOWER:   passing above it right .
GIVER:   now , do you have a walled city ?
FOLLOWER:   yes .
GIVER:   and do you have a desert ?
FOLLOWER:   yes .
GIVER:   well , pass from above the apache camp ... ... um ... and over the top of the walled city ... but between the desert and the walled city .
FOLLOWER:   between them ?
GIVER:   uh-huh , so that's over the top of the walled city .
FOLLOWER:   right okay .
GIVER:   okay .
FOLLOWER:   but i'm that's not in a straight line .
GIVER:   oh that's fair enough , right just just go between those two .
FOLLOWER:   right okay right okay .
GIVER:   right ?
FOLLOWER:   right .
GIVER:   and then .
FOLLOWER:   okay i'm between .
GIVER:   continue ... south .
FOLLOWER:   okay .
GIVER:   right , until , do you you you have no carved wooden pole at all ?
FOLLOWER:   yes .
GIVER:   a totem pole ... sort of c-- thing ?
FOLLOWER:   yes ... uh-huh .
GIVER:   right .
FOLLOWER:   but right at the very bottom .
GIVER:   well okay , do you have any flat rocks ?
FOLLOWER:   yes ... uh-huh .
GIVER:   ch-- ... do you have a stone creek in that ... area ?
FOLLOWER:   yes .
GIVER:   right .
FOLLOWER:   they're all on a ... diagonal .
GIVER:   right okay .
FOLLOWER:   carved wooden pole stone creek flat rocks .
GIVER:   right okay right , what you do then is you go south from the walled city .
FOLLOWER:   right .
GIVER:   and you follow a ... sort of ... curve ehm , how do you describe the last south , sort of ... from ... g-- go in a .
FOLLOWER:   an "s" .
GIVER:   sort of "c" shape to cover the bottom of a "c" , right , from when you pass down below the walled city .
FOLLOWER:   right i ... right wait .
GIVER:   go in a "c"-shaped curve .
FOLLOWER:   right from ?
GIVER:   right , and then go between the flat rocks and the stone creek , okay ... can you do that , you pass in a ... pass .
FOLLOWER:   right , i ... i'm at the walled city right .
GIVER:   oh you're at the walled city .
FOLLOWER:   right .
GIVER:   you're just above it ... have you come down ?
FOLLOWER:   i'm just ... i'm ... just come down .
GIVER:   uh-huh .
FOLLOWER:   so i'm still ... at the ... ... parallel with the base .
GIVER:   right .
FOLLOWER:   right ?
GIVER:   right .
FOLLOWER:   the carved wooden pole is right ... at my bot-- ... right at the bottom i've got a ghost town in between the walled city and .
GIVER:   between the walled city and what ?
FOLLOWER:   the carved wooden pole , there's a ghost town .
GIVER:   right , oh well ... i don't have this on my map , so ... ehm , do you have ... flat rocks ?
FOLLOWER:   yes .
GIVER:   in line with the ghost town ?
FOLLOWER:   mm more or less yeah ... more or less .
GIVER:   right then , pass ... pass ... below ... the ghost town .
FOLLOWER:   right okay .
GIVER:   but above the carved wooden pole and above the stone creek .
FOLLOWER:   right okay .
GIVER:   right , so you're just .
FOLLOWER:   so between the ghost town and sort of like a ... forty-five degree line or something ?
GIVER:   yeah , well then just make sure yous you miss that uh-huh uh-huh .
FOLLOWER:   right , below the go below the wooden pole ?
GIVER:   no , don't go don't go below the wooden pole .
FOLLOWER:   right , so between the ghost town and the wooden pole ?
GIVER:   uh-huh , but don't go below the level of the stone creek , right ?
FOLLOWER:   right okay so i'm passing above the stone creek and i'm going up to above the flat rocks ?
GIVER:   no , below the flat rocks .
FOLLOWER:   right okay right i know what you mean ... right .
GIVER:   you got to p-- you've got to pass below the flat rocks .
FOLLOWER:   okay .
GIVER:   right , so you're taking a ... sort of north .
FOLLOWER:   right okay i'm below the flat rocks .
GIVER:   right ... below the flat rocks .
FOLLOWER:   yeah .
GIVER:   okay , you want to veer ... ver-- ... to your right curve round to your right and go in a south ... south direction , and do you have buffalo ?
FOLLOWER:   pas-- ... yeah , got a saloon bar as well above that though .
GIVER:   no you're not going into a saloon bar mark .
FOLLOWER:   right i know .
GIVER:   right .
FOLLOWER:   not just now , right okay , due south ?
GIVER:   right , go south , pa-- past buffalo .
FOLLOWER:   right , that means i've passed the bar .
GIVER:   and then just in a s-- sort of ... virtual straight line past the bar mark , okay ?
FOLLOWER:   right okay , right .
GIVER:   and and do you have a cattle ranch ?
FOLLOWER:   no .
GIVER:   okay erm .
FOLLOWER:   no .
GIVER:   do you have a fort ?
FOLLOWER:   yes .
GIVER:   right , well , go past ... the buffalo .
FOLLOWER:   mmhmm , below them ?
GIVER:   above the right below the buffalo below the buffalo right .
FOLLOWER:   below the buffalo right , so turn to my left ?
GIVER:   that's right turn to your left .
FOLLOWER:   below the buffalo .
GIVER:   below the buffalo .
FOLLOWER:   right .
GIVER:   right , at about ... at the level of the top of the fort ... right in line with the top of the fort .
FOLLOWER:   okay , pass straight across ?
GIVER:   no don't pass straight across right , just curve downwards ... in a ... a "u" slight "u" ... a very very very slight ... curve ... and then pass ... upwards in a ... like an upside-down "u" because you want to avoid the cattle ranch which lies between the fort and the buffalo , there's a cattle ... there's a cattle ranch .
FOLLOWER:   right , there's a cattle ranch between your buffalo and your fort ?
GIVER:   that's right .
FOLLOWER:   right , so i've got to go along ... and uh ... over a "u" shape ... right ?
GIVER:   so , you've go up and over ... the cattle ranch .
FOLLOWER:   and then to the along to the fort ?
GIVER:   then down , uh-huh that's right .
FOLLOWER:   right hang on hang on ... right ... right .
GIVER:   and , and .
FOLLOWER:   i'm doing my "u" now ... right .
GIVER:   right , and then ... down ... underneath the fort ... sort of um to your left .
FOLLOWER:   right , over the over the "u" ?
GIVER:   mmhmm ... over the cattle ranch right ?
FOLLOWER:   right , down and then down to the left and then south ?
GIVER:   and then da-- travel south ... and then .
FOLLOWER:   before i reach the fort or on the other side ?
GIVER:   before you reach the fort .
FOLLOWER:   right .
GIVER:   before you reach the fort .
FOLLOWER:   so down south right ?
GIVER:   go down south , and ... then ... do you have anything else between the fort and the cattle ranch ?
FOLLOWER:   no .
GIVER:   you don't , okay then , so just ... go south ... and then straight along ... underneath the fort .
FOLLOWER:   okay .
GIVER:   emerging ... at the left-hand side ... of the fort ... and you've to finish ... opposite the base ... more or less opposite the base of the carved wooden pole .
FOLLOWER:   i have to proceed ?
GIVER:   but still to the left of the fort .
FOLLOWER:   right , so i just go straight up north ?
GIVER:   right ... straight up north yeah , and finish ... erm ... beyond ... the fort .
FOLLOWER:   right .
GIVER:   and ... be at this ... at .
FOLLOWER:   i'm above the fort , at the base of the wooden .
GIVER:   to the left of the fort and ... level with the base of the wooden pole but not actually beside the wooden pole .
FOLLOWER:   right ... okay .