GIVER:   okay phil ?
FOLLOWER:   right .
GIVER:   on my map ... i have a telephone kiosk ... in the bottom left-hand corner .
FOLLOWER:   uh-huh .
GIVER:   okay the route starts above it .
FOLLOWER:   mmhmm .
GIVER:   directly above it ... about ... on my map ... about half an inch from the top of the telephone kiosk .
FOLLOWER:   yeah got you .
GIVER:   okay , it's a dotted line ... that moves ... around to the left of the k-- telephone kiosk ... down .
FOLLOWER:   mmhmm .
GIVER:   passing around the left-hand side of the stone circle .
FOLLOWER:   stone circle ?
GIVER:   yeah .
FOLLOWER:   how don't think i've got that on my map ... i have a telephone kiosk ... and a ... the nearest thing is a broken gate to the bottom right-hand .
GIVER:   yeah , well under ... on on my map ... directly under the telephone kiosk .
FOLLOWER:   mmhmm .
GIVER:   at the ... right on the bottom left-hand corner of the page ... i have a stone circle .
FOLLOWER:   yeah , right .
GIVER:   so if you could take your route ... straight down ... 'til about ... an inch above the bottom of the page .
FOLLOWER:   uh-huh .
GIVER:   okay ?
FOLLOWER:   right .
GIVER:   then go straight ... straight on .
FOLLOWER:   to the r-- ?
GIVER:   horizontally ... about ... and for about another inch .
FOLLOWER:   to the right ?
GIVER:   yeah to the right .
FOLLOWER:   right .
GIVER:   okay ?
FOLLOWER:   okay .
GIVER:   now ... if you move straight up you're going to be on the left-hand side of that farmer's gate ?
FOLLOWER:   right .
GIVER:   that correct ?
FOLLOWER:   yeah .
GIVER:   okay , if you move straight up ... until you're at the top left-hand corner of the broken gate .
FOLLOWER:   mmhmm , right .
GIVER:   okay , now we're going to move ... do you have a meadow in the bottom right-hand corner ?
FOLLOWER:   meadow yeah uh-huh .
GIVER:   okay , now ... you're going to move in a diagonal line , do you have little seagulls drawn on it ?
FOLLOWER:   no not at all .
GIVER:   little birds , okay .
FOLLOWER:   oh yeah sorry i do yeah .
GIVER:   no ... you do ?
FOLLOWER:   uh-huh .
GIVER:   well ... i've got five little birds on mine .
FOLLOWER:   yeah ... just above the meadow .
GIVER:   okay .
FOLLOWER:   right .
GIVER:   so if you take the middle bird .
FOLLOWER:   uh-huh .
GIVER:   and you move up the page until you're probably about ... ... to a point that's about ... half an inch horizontally higher than the ... point you're at at the farmer's gate .
FOLLOWER:   right .
GIVER:   okay ?
FOLLOWER:   mmhmm .
GIVER:   now if ... you take your route from where you are now to that point .
FOLLOWER:   right .
GIVER:   diagonally ... upwards .
FOLLOWER:   right .
GIVER:   okay we're going to move up from there ... to the ruined monastery .
FOLLOWER:   right .
GIVER:   and your route's .
FOLLOWER:   h-- have you got overnight accommodation ... on yours ?
GIVER:   no i don't .
FOLLOWER:   well i've got overnight accommodation ... ... in a diagonal line ... between ... the ruined monastery and the point i'm at just now .
GIVER:   in a diagonal line ?
FOLLOWER:   yeah , it's about ... ... if upwards was north ... it would be ... northwest ... of where i am just now .
GIVER:   yeah ... oh that sounds ... that sounds like the same route that i have here , does that take you up to the top right-hand corner say of the ... the ruined monastery ... you know just off the ruined monastery ?
FOLLOWER:   erm well .
GIVER:   by that pa-- ?
FOLLOWER:   if i was goi-- to go up in a straight line just now i'd end up slightly to the right of the ruined monastery .
GIVER:   okay , well it's slightly diagonally ... northwest as you said .
FOLLOWER:   yeah well that's through the overnight accommodation then .
GIVER:   well that's that'd be good .
FOLLOWER:   i don't suppose that's an obstacle really .
GIVER:   no , that'd be quite good actually .
FOLLOWER:   right go straight through it then ?
GIVER:   yeah , we're going right up there and around the top of the ruined monastery curving round the top .
FOLLOWER:   curving round the top the right-hand side or the left-hand side ?
GIVER:   oh we're coming up ... you're coming up on the right-hand side .
FOLLOWER:   mmhmm .
GIVER:   and you're going over to the left-hand side ... and down .
FOLLOWER:   right .
GIVER:   so it's curved down ... towards the west lake .
FOLLOWER:   sorry where am i going from the point just now just up northwest ?
GIVER:   up northwest .
FOLLOWER:   uh-huh .
GIVER:   say to the top right-hand corner of the ruined monastery .
FOLLOWER:   uh-huh .
GIVER:   okay and you're going to draw like a small arch just skimming round the outside of it .
FOLLOWER:   right , right , to the left ?
GIVER:   an arch , down to the left yes .
FOLLOWER:   yeah .
GIVER:   okay ?
FOLLOWER:   mmhmm .
GIVER:   now you're going to keep moving downwards ... like in an arc .
FOLLOWER:   yeah .
GIVER:   around the edge of the west lake , do you have the west lake on yours ?
FOLLOWER:   nope ... not at all no .
GIVER:   okay , let me see , now you've skimmed an arch ... around the top of the ruined monastery ?
FOLLOWER:   yeah .
GIVER:   come down about ... an inch ... keep the ... keep the arc coming down for about an inch .
FOLLOWER:   mmhmm , right .
GIVER:   past the bottom of the ruined monastery .
FOLLOWER:   right .
GIVER:   okay now you're going to curve it back , do you have a stile , up to ?
FOLLOWER:   eh yeah uh-huh .
GIVER:   yeah ?
FOLLOWER:   yeah .
GIVER:   well ... if you can curve it round ... until ... a ... point ... that's directly below the left-hand corner ... of the stile .
FOLLOWER:   mmhmm .
GIVER:   and then move straight upwards ... towards the left-hand side ... skim round the left-hand side of the stile .
FOLLOWER:   am i doing an arc ... eh that's curving up ... and over to the left ?
GIVER:   yeah , you've just done one that's curved down .
FOLLOWER:   uh-huh .
GIVER:   from the ruined monastery and you're curving back up now towards the stile .
FOLLOWER:   right .
GIVER:   on the left-hand side of it .
FOLLOWER:   yeah , right i'm there .
GIVER:   okay come over the top .
FOLLOWER:   mmhmm .
GIVER:   and then once you're past the stile ... go straight up ... about ... two inches .
FOLLOWER:   uh-huh .
GIVER:   okay .
FOLLOWER:   yeah .
GIVER:   right at this point ... across t-- ... and down to the right-hand side of your page do you have a dead tree ?
FOLLOWER:   eh no , i have a dutch elm ... but ... erm .
GIVER:   well that's .
FOLLOWER:   is that the dead tree ?
GIVER:   possibly , yeah , above ?
FOLLOWER:   well it's on the very far right-hand side of the page though .
GIVER:   right , yeah , on the ri-- ... dilect ... directly right across from where you are do you have a great viewpoint ... a drawing of a telescope i have here ?
FOLLOWER:   eh it's directly above where i am just now ... directly above the stile about four inches .
GIVER:   yeah ... i've got that , i've got another one across to the right .
FOLLOWER:   no i haven't got that one .
GIVER:   okay , and do you have the east lake up in the top right-hand corner ?
FOLLOWER:   uh-huh , yeah .
GIVER:   where you are just now ... should be horizontally across from ... say just below the bottom right-hand tip of it ... that's how high you should be on the map ?
FOLLOWER:   the great viewpoint ?
GIVER:   no , no from the ea-- ... the bottom right-hand corner of the east lake .
FOLLOWER:   bottom right-hand corner uh-huh .
GIVER:   okay ?
FOLLOWER:   uh-huh .
GIVER:   now you should be say about ... a half an inch ... below that only across the other side of the page ?
FOLLOWER:   yeah got that exactly yeah .
GIVER:   excellent , now ... you see where the ruined monastery is ?
FOLLOWER:   yeah uh-huh .
GIVER:   back to the ruined monastery again .
FOLLOWER:   straight line up ?
GIVER:   and you've got you've got an elm tree ... sort of just off to the right of that ?
FOLLOWER:   oh right , yeah uh-huh .
GIVER:   okay , what we're going to do then ... is draw a diagonal line from where you are now .
FOLLOWER:   mmhmm .
GIVER:   down to a point ... that goes around the outside of the elm tree .
FOLLOWER:   right , i've got a popular tourist spot ... erm between ... the dutch elm and where i am just now .
GIVER:   do you .
FOLLOWER:   yeah , so go straight through that ?
GIVER:   yeah ... go straight through it .
FOLLOWER:   towards the dutch elm ?
GIVER:   yeah .
FOLLOWER:   and which side of the dutch elm should i end up on ?
GIVER:   y-- ... you're going to ... draw a line around the outside of it ... so you should be underneath the dutch elm .
FOLLOWER:   right , so i'm ... drawing a line around the top of the dutch elm ending up at underneath it ?
GIVER:   yeah ... that's right .
FOLLOWER:   right , right .
GIVER:   we're going to curve ... around the outside of the elm .
FOLLOWER:   mmhmm .
GIVER:   okay ?
FOLLOWER:   i've done that yeah .
GIVER:   now , this dutch elm you have ... if you look across the page to the stile again ?
FOLLOWER:   uh-huh .
GIVER:   is it beneath the stile ... or ?
FOLLOWER:   slightly beneath it ... the base of the dutch elm is about ... ... maybe half an inch ... below the bottom of the stile .
GIVER:   uh-huh , and ... away f-- is it about ... an inch away from the right-hand side of the page ?
FOLLOWER:   yeah uh-huh .
GIVER:   oh must be the same tree ... i would think anyway .
FOLLOWER:   mmhmm .
GIVER:   sounds similar , okay you're going to ... come around the outside of that .
FOLLOWER:   yeah .
GIVER:   you'll be about an inch away from ... the right-hand s-- edge of the page .
FOLLOWER:   right .
GIVER:   okay ?
FOLLOWER:   mmhmm .
GIVER:   and you're going to come back in as if you'd drawn ... about ... two thirds of a circle around the tree just about .
FOLLOWER:   right ... got you .
GIVER:   okay ?
FOLLOWER:   yeah .
GIVER:   now , you don't have a telescope between you and the ... the east lake no ?
FOLLOWER:   no .
GIVER:   a great viewpoint , do you have any kind of marking at all ?
FOLLOWER:   i've , rocket launch pad .
GIVER:   a rocket launch pad .
FOLLOWER:   yeah .
GIVER:   excellent , eh ... no i don't have a rocket launch pad on mine , but ... i don't think that would be ... a tremendously good place to go through .
FOLLOWER:   no .
GIVER:   right , okay , do you have east lake written ... on the east lake ?
FOLLOWER:   uh-huh yeah .
GIVER:   yeah , see where the "e" is ?
FOLLOWER:   uh-huh .
GIVER:   erm ... if you draw a line ... if you are ... just about ... directly beneath that "e" .
FOLLOWER:   mmhmm .
GIVER:   okay ... draw a line up to ... the water's edge ... maybe just to the right of that "e" .
FOLLOWER:   s-- ... straight up ?
GIVER:   straight up ... yeah .
FOLLOWER:   just slightly to the right of the "e" ?
GIVER:   mmhmm , until ... you're just like virtually on the water's edge .
FOLLOWER:   mmhmm .
GIVER:   okay ?
FOLLOWER:   right .
GIVER:   now ... mark your route ... along the water's edge ... to a point ... that's just past the sort of ... bottom left-hand edge of it .
FOLLOWER:   uh-huh .
GIVER:   okay , that's pointing .
FOLLOWER:   bottom left-hand edge ?
GIVER:   yeah , if if your line is pointing ... you-- ... you're not ... we're not going to take it that far ... but if your line is pointing towards the great viewpoint ... which is on the top left-hand corner .
FOLLOWER:   uh-huh .
GIVER:   and you're still underneath the east lake then that's you .
FOLLOWER:   right , right got you .
GIVER:   "x" marks the spot ... and we're finished .
FOLLOWER:   so where am i going now ... to the great viewpoint ?
GIVER:   that's you , no ... that's you .