GIVER:    okay , you're starting ... ... at ... the ehm , left-hand side of the cliffs .
FOLLOWER:   a-- , yeah , i've got a start point .
GIVER:   right got start point ?
FOLLOWER:   mmhmm .
GIVER:   right , oh ... ... you're going to ... do a backward "s" , okay , you're going to do a backward "s" ... you .
FOLLOWER:   right .
GIVER:   right , you're going to ... go down ... slightly ... for about ... a centimetre .
FOLLOWER:   is this ... before or after the backward "s" ?
GIVER:   this is before it .
FOLLOWER:   right .
GIVER:   i'm explaining how to do the backward "s" .
FOLLOWER:   right , go ... downwards , for about a centimetre ?
GIVER:   s-- ... for a centimetre right , you're going to ehm , follow ... ehm a line it's diagonal ... it's like ... a five o'clock line , do you know what i'm talking about ?
FOLLOWER:   yeah .
GIVER:   and you're going ... by this time you should be just ... at ... the left-hand side at bottom of the cliffs .
FOLLOWER:   right .
GIVER:   okay ?
FOLLOWER:   mmhmm .
GIVER:   going to do a half circle ... you're going to do it ... towards the page .
FOLLOWER:   towards the end of the page ?
GIVER:   mmhmm , the opposite of an indifference curve if that's the way i could explain it .
FOLLOWER:   so , right ... okay .
GIVER:   okay ?
FOLLOWER:   so ehm , would that ... starting at the bottom of the cliffs ... a half circle towards the left-hand side of the page ?
GIVER:   uh-huh , okay ?
FOLLOWER:   right .
GIVER:   right , do you have a forge ?
FOLLOWER:   no .
GIVER:   no , well , you're going to do another circle .
FOLLOWER:   uh-huh .
GIVER:   half circle it's as if you're going round something .
FOLLOWER:   uh-huh .
GIVER:   right , go round something ... imagine there's something there you're going to go round it ... you're going to head off ... towards ... ... the page , right , do a half circle ... and see when you come to the point just at the end of that half circle .
FOLLOWER:   uh-huh .
GIVER:   are you at it ?
FOLLOWER:   yeah .
GIVER:   right , head up ... in a diagonal lo-- ... line towards a one o'clock , do you have an old pine ?
FOLLOWER:   yes .
GIVER:   head up to the top ... of that old pine .
FOLLOWER:   right .
GIVER:   okay ?
FOLLOWER:   mmhmm .
GIVER:   now you're going to ... come down again at a slight slant just a slight slant ... right ... a slight slope .
FOLLOWER:   down on the l-- ... the left or the right-hand side of the pine ?
GIVER:   you're going to come down ... ... on the right-hand side of the pine .
FOLLOWER:   right , a slope towards the right ?
GIVER:   uh-huh , you're going towards the page , right ?
FOLLOWER:   right .
GIVER:   not coming off it , right ?
FOLLOWER:   right .
GIVER:   do you have a pine forest ?
FOLLOWER:   yeah .
GIVER:   right , you're going to slope ... ehm ... down towards the pine pine forest ... but you're going to come closer ... closer to the pine forest when you're sloping , do you know what i mean , the gap between ... ... the path and the pine forest is getting smaller , okay , and then you should be at the bottom of the pine forest .
FOLLOWER:   right .
GIVER:   okay , right , you're going to do another half circle ... towards the ... ... towards the right you're going ... out of the page right another half circle ... out of the page .
FOLLOWER:   a half circle to the right ?
GIVER:   uh-huh .
FOLLOWER:   okay .
GIVER:   right , so the outer circle's like s-- ehm ... is right across from the edge of the page ... okay , do you have a bakery ?
FOLLOWER:   yeah .
GIVER:   okay , go down ... ... slightly ... ... from that half circle just very very slightly .
FOLLOWER:   uh-huh .
GIVER:   right , you're going to head off again towards the right and go right round that bakery .
FOLLOWER:   all the way round it ?
GIVER:   all the way round , are you at crane bay , like ... see the ... the first peak in great crane bay , are you ... opposite directly opposite ... f-- ... up ... from it ?
FOLLOWER:   ehm ... not yet , but i will be in a minute .
GIVER:   right , do that .
FOLLOWER:   yeah ... right .
GIVER:   okay , go straight ... down ... for about ... three centimetres , see you come to that ehm curve ... in the bay , you want to be about a centimetre away just from crane bay , right ?
FOLLOWER:   right .
GIVER:   follow ... that curve round 'til you come to the second peak .
FOLLOWER:   right .
GIVER:   okay , are you at wheatfields ?
FOLLOWER:   no d-- .
GIVER:   no .
FOLLOWER:   i don't .
GIVER:   no .
FOLLOWER:   no .
GIVER:   okay , right you're going to head off ... towards ... a leftward ... ehm slant ... sloping down again .
FOLLOWER:   how far down ?
GIVER:   about three centimetres , okay ?
FOLLOWER:   right .
GIVER:   go straight along for another three centimetres .
FOLLOWER:   to the left ?
GIVER:   to the left .
FOLLOWER:   yes .
GIVER:   are you above a rocket warehouse , okay , right , you're going to slants ... go to the end of the rocket warehouse if you know what i mean , see how the top ?
FOLLOWER:   uh-huh .
GIVER:   of the rocket warehouse , go to the end of that .
FOLLOWER:   parallel to the ... the rocket warehouse ?
GIVER:   uh-huh .
FOLLOWER:   right ... okay .
GIVER:   right , slope s-- ... ... slope ... down again ... ... to the left ... directly .
FOLLOWER:   to ... directly to the left so to ?
GIVER:   directly to .
FOLLOWER:   to the left ?
GIVER:   like you're sloping down like a seven o'clock line .
FOLLOWER:   uh-huh .
GIVER:   okay ?
FOLLOWER:   to the left of the rocket warehouse ?
GIVER:   uh-huh .
FOLLOWER:   how far down ?
GIVER:   ehm , you should be about ... ... ... ehm ... ... six centimetres above the bottom of the page .
FOLLOWER:   so ... below the rocket warehouse ?
GIVER:   no , you're at the left-hand side of the ro-- .
FOLLOWER:   s-- ... stop at the left ?
GIVER:   you should be just an inch away from the edge of the page now ?
FOLLOWER:   yeah .
GIVER:   right okay ?
FOLLOWER:   uh-huh .
GIVER:   go straight down again for three centimetres .
FOLLOWER:   uh-huh .
GIVER:   and then curve towards the old lighthouse .
FOLLOWER:   round which side of the cave ?
GIVER:   hmm ... i don't have a cave , ehm ... go towards the lighthouse .
FOLLOWER:   uh-huh , ehm ... ... just slope towards it ?
GIVER:   slope towards it , you're ... forming another half circle again .
FOLLOWER:   ehm ... a half circle towards ?
GIVER:   the l-- ... old lighthouse .
FOLLOWER:   right .
GIVER:   and that's you once you get to the old lighthouse .
FOLLOWER:   right .
GIVER:   okay ?
FOLLOWER:   okay .
GIVER:   that's it finished .